I have talked about the polearm as being too powerful in the game. Todays battle was no different.

My opponent managed to score 413 point damage with a polearm wich is pretty impressive, but he also managed to swing 35 times...WTF???

I imagine a polearm to be a heavy weapon that makes lots of damage, somewhat like a twohanded sword. 35 hits is more than most dagger specialists will ever do.

When will this weapon be nerfed?

he actualy hits 37 times but what a poor performance he only makes the target 19 times

my best is 19 attacks with a bow and then 7 with a staff after, aginst some chargers, the hero is elf and have 19 in swiftness Dartak
and my best dagger specialist must have been Dandrel with 21 melle attacks in over time
Ombad my best staff wielder have in original time got 27 hits with his staff, 16 in swifftness I tink ther is a long way up to the 37 hits, and then the staff special attack ,Shaft of Shock, don´t even make any damage.

Their answer when I brought this up a couple of months ago was basically its so good because you may not be able to use it every battle unlike the other specialities which can be used in every battle regardless of the situation.

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"Rhapsody is quite right" - Llorente

Cause the polearm can only be used if the hero is in melee ranged with the javelin, the problem is that most lords are smart enough to ensure that their polearm heroes are in melee range of your heroes by using protecting formations e.g 3P2R or 2P3R which can't be countered.

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"Rhapsody is quite right" - Llorente

At a first time, reading this post, I found it really strange. Then I went to take a look at the battle, and I saw that there was a terribly long overtime. If I've correctly seen 14 of the 35 attacks have been made during this overtime.
So in the normal time you have just 21 attacks, that is perfectly right. About damages: he has been somehow lucky, but again: most of the damage has been done in the overtime, where his hitting percentage was much higher (he had all his HP and was targetting and already wounded hero with daggers, that are not very good in defending).
Poleram are not very precise weapons, in fact if you see at the beginning of the battle his hitting percentage was around 35%, while during the overtime around 50-55%.

It's the third time you complain about polearms, but if you take a deeper look you will see how they are not overpowered, as many of us told you.
And we are not saying this in order to keep an advantage and use our overpowered polearmed heroes against your team!!

Here I give you three examples:

1) In my team I have 6 heroes that are specialists with javelin. Just 1 of them has the polearmed speciality, and he is the weakest one! I have other three heroes with javelin that will soon became specialists. Probably one of them will be a polearmed, while the others will take strike'him down speciality.

2) Last season I won the div. I conquest in Eidolon. In the most important battle, against Mysteria (the other team that could win the conquest, and that I have to admit is stronger than my team) I choose to put my polearmed hero (now retired, in Pelantas) NOT as polerarmed but as protector in a 5P lineup (against his 5C lineup). He was very strong as a polearmed hero, but morning star is much better, if you are able to avoid your opponent targetting him. Usually as polearmed, even in a 3P2R lineup against a 5C lineup, he was able to do around 200 point damage (let say between 130 and 250), while with the morning star he can do something more (let say between 150 and 380).

3) When a polearmed hero target an hero with a battle staff often it is a nightmare. You hitting percentage becomes also lower than 30%. So or you are lucky in your first attacks (and then all becomes easy, because a wounded hero is much worse in defending) or otherwise he will be quite useless. Much better a hero with strike'him down: he will have much higher hitting percentages.

For sure what is true is that polearmed heroes are the best ranged heroes in a 3P2R linup facing a 5C lineup (IMHO very closely followed by a crossbow with The Limp speciality). But it is the only situation where they are stronger, in other situations they are not a good idea!! And also in this situation: if you are sure your opponent will arrive with a 5C polearmed heroes very often are worse than adding a protector.
So they are not overpowered!!

Then, if you disagree and anyway think that polearmed heroes are too strong, train some of them and use them!!

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Let start the "Pot of gold revolution"!! :-)

he sure does because is right, especially about the hitting chance thing.

most of the people come here complaining about the polearm after a battle where the luck wasn't on their side. as vonatar said if the polearm hits the first few times then the hitting chance increases even further and does great damage. but if the polearm specialist is unlucky and misses a few shots and even worse he gets hit by some then he tends to be kinda useless for the rest of the battle.

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Live for today because yesterday is gone and tomorrow may never come.

Probably you didn't understand. I don't use it polearm quite at all!!
I win? This season is going bad, but last season I won 11 matches out of 12, and I won the conquest.
This is the match I spoked about, the battle with Misterya that gave me the conquest:
Darkstadt vs Misterya
Falg is my polearmed (I don't remember his exact stats, something around 18 strenght and 15 swift). In this match I chose to use him not as polearmed but as protector, with his morning star. For sure I've been lucky, but he managed to do 408 damages without extra time. And this is completely impossible for a polearmed hero.
A polearm make 20-22 attacks, while a morning star makes 16-17 attacks, but it makes much more damage.

Now, in the most important match I chose to not use the polearmed hero, and I was right! I won this match just because he and the other guy with the morning star were not targeted by Mysteria's heroes and so were able to make such a huge damage! With polearmed heroes I would have lost this battle!

Moreover a polearmed hero is useful only if you are facing a 5C tactic, otherwise it is a totally useless speciality (it simply does nothing!!)
I want to have in my team one ore two polyarmed heroes, but I have 30 heroes!! I think it's useful to have them, but only for a few matches. Of course I agree that they are very good in a 3P2R tactic against a 5C tactics, but it is just one of the possible situations.
And also in this one you have other possible choices:
1) A hero with strike'him down and morning star, both with speed in preference to damage. In my opinion this is also better than a polearmed hero. This has been one of the things that let me win the conquest. Very often I use Zalarion Raliel (a level 16 elf with 19 strength and 18 swift) in such a way, and I found him much more useful than a polearmed hero.
2) A hero with the limp. In this case he will quite surely make less damage than a polearmed hero, but he has two other advantages: a) since crossbow is a terribly precise weapon it is perfect if you face a hero with a battle staff. In this case it is much better than a polearmed hero missing his target (in average: 65% hitting probability vs 30%) b) one of your opponent's heroes will make much less attacks.

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Let start the "Pot of gold revolution"!! :-)

It's nothing but javelin. All the relevant attributes for javelin are relevant for polearm. Strength, dexterity, intelligence.

thx