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my heroes became shaterred although i have not changed significantly luxury set up more weeks just light additions if heroes grew up with level
after yesterday 4 my heroes became shattered (although they were composed or higher) and they still got nice luxury
on the other hand low level heroes became somehow soaring
to recover morale most leveled heroes will cost a lot ... is there any change in this matter in set up without any announcement?
additionally if i open my luxury menu there are huge middle and small minuses and it is dependent on luxury i pay. before same set up was much more only small pluses and minuses. it is strange.
please, could you post announcement if you change such a set up so dramatically.
many thanks
Frrfrr
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We haven't changed anything - and we always post if we make major changes. Remember that you heroes can suffer great morale drops if they do not participate in battles. This might be what has happened? Or maybe your heroes are just gaining levels and thus costing more. Humans are especially costly at the high levels!
Llorente - The looming omnipotent presence, master of the wind and lead developer Path to Pelantas - a fantasy browser-based game (PBBG)
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hmmm, now i realised whats hapenned ... the luxury set up i made before monday for the heroes was changed ... top heroes instead of aristocrat level got servent payment and servants got aristocrat payments ... i bet i did not change anything ...
i changed my password - was thinking someone did it to me, but there could be worse if they would sell heroes.
please, could someone from admin check whether the account was hecked i use normally only 2 spots from where i play and this had to be changed during the weekend / Monday
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or alternativly i was thinking whether it also can be a bug ... total luxury paid is very similar to the one which should be paid also before, but the aristocrat luxury got hero lev1 and servants luxury got hero lev8
i remember last week i bought 2 heroes, same time i am selling one and i have also hired and dismissed some. Could be this way the table got messed in some data on server?
this is how it was set up ...
Name Morale Lev Pay gold Pay level
Alakvyr (Elf) Elevated 2 1 Slave
Ardenter Mermad (Human) Elevated 2 3 Servant
Bud Matthan (Human) Soaring 1 + 24 Aristocrat
Dragye Nelboh (Dwarf) Exalted 7 12 Nobleman
Dukak Mudrak (Orc) Elevated 6 12 Nobleman
Ectidoc Boydnetton (Human) Exalted 4 12 Nobleman
Elváldur Telsis (Elf) Soaring 1 12 Nobleman
Hagak Akhagor (Orc) Exalted 4 3 Servant
Hehrid Svanoli (Dwarf) Shattered 8 3 Servant
Herrengan Kimalia (Dwarf) Soaring 2 + 12 Nobleman
Huran Kasin (Dwarf) Exalted 4 24 Aristocrat
Keemene Balran (Human) Shattered 7 1 Slave
Legelad Lymeorvir (Elf) Shattered 8 3 Servant
Minaturn Luudthis (Human) Composed 1 6 Citizen
Mulwha Mank (Human) Disheartened 4 6 Citizen
Rahamesh Grunarka (Dwarf) Soaring 1 12 Nobleman
Rankinematz Luudgah (Human) Soaring 2 12 Nobleman
Rengan Ishtuamman (Dwarf) Composed 6 12 Nobleman
Sarnik Boberso (Human) Exalted 5 24 Aristocrat
Vranolf Glunar (Dwarf) Shattered 9 3 Servant
Vrudrak Xolkug (Orc) Exalted 6 6 Citizen
Wallial Majorel (Human) Dejected 3 + 1 Slave
you may see is bad Vranolf Glunar got Servant luxury level being lev 9 ... i can not imagine, how to get out of this. sorry how this appears in chat, it was formatted table :(
I DID NOT SET THIS MYSELF, it was set to proper level before
please, help, what happened?
thx
Frrfrr
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I have experinced something simalary.
when you enter your luxery page with out pasing by your hero page your hero´s will appear for your eyes alphabetic but behind they will lay as lord´s hierarchy, so if you make a change cloose the page and open it agin after, for making sure the probber change have been made.
batter safe than sorry
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sinaj wrote:I have experinced something simalary.
when you enter your luxery page with out pasing by your hero page your hero´s will appear for your eyes alphabetic but behind they will lay as lord´s hierarchy, so if you make a change cloose the page and open it agin after, for making sure the probber change have been made.
batter safe than sorry i hope admin has more positive answer for me ... then "sorry" ...
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I had one situation which might give a clue - I use tabs in Mozilla Firefox to play the game, and once I had two tabs open: Luxury in one and Heroes in second. When I fired one hero from the Heroes tab, the whole order of heroes in the Luxury tab changed (one hero was missing, so some of them went one position up), but the order of luxury levels stayed the same, thus changing my luxury settings a lot.
Dunno if I expressed myself right, so an example:
Before:
Hero1 slave
Hero2 nobleman
Hero3 aristocrat
After: I fired Hero2
Hero1 slave
Hero3 nobleman
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so agin, have you made a change, double check if it´s as you want´s
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no answer and no reaction from admin means you put a fart on me. i got the point ...
i hope you will improve customer service as long as beta is over
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No need to be offensive. Of course we don't ignore anyone but currently we don't have the capacity to fix bugs each and every day. But sorry for not replying earlier. We will be looking into your case for sure! Cheers!
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As far as i know you are not a customer since you don't pay anything _at all_ for this game Frrfrr, so cut the dev's some slack. You know this is beta, I'm sure the dev's are happy that you report a bug, but they have a lot to look into to improve this game, and your small bug may not be on top of the list. Please accept that and be patient, unlucky a few of your heroes ended up with bad morale, but surely this doesn't ruin the game for you completely! Personally I think Monka might have found what caused the bug to occur, so until now just avoid doing the same thing again and double check if everything is as it should be before next luxury update.
Sanity out!
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The problem is most likely related to a change in another tab as several people have mentioned. I've looked at the bug, and fixed it so a warning is given and incorrect data isn't saved if you for example have fired or recruited a hero - which currently would move the entire list as Monka described earlier. I've also solved the sorting problem, so heroes always are sorted after their names. Edit: I look at bug reports and mails to support[a]pelantas.com first and foremost. Bugs reported on the forum - especially in the questions section - will get attention when I have the time. Another edit: the change will not take effect before I publish a new version of the website, which I'll do in a couple of hours.
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Well something did change.
It is sorting alphabetically now in the luxury page.
And I didn't make any changes.
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Thank's for taking the heroes page back to normal, I wish you'd do the same thing to the luxury page. I don't think sorting it alfabetically helps anyone and only makes more confusion. So place make it sort after lord's hieracy again. Furthermore, I think it deserves a small announcement when you change something like this in the interface, not that many people read the forum, and even though it's a small change it can be very confusing if nothing is said about it. Ye, I guess that's one small thing i hoped you could be better at, making announcements when there's is small changes and problems. When there is a problem people tend to get quite annoyed and sometimes even angry, but a small notice on the front page saying you are working on it would relieve people of this.
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